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Is America Energy Rich, Power Poor?

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Comments (25)

Tigran V. Abovyan
4d ago

Ed, I'm a long-time reader, thanks for this one.

The number that stuck with me was 12–18 months for 500 miles of pipeline versus 24–48 for 500 miles of wire. That usually gets read as a point for gas, but it's really a point about distance. If the wires are the slow part, maybe the answer isn't better wires or pipelines, it's not needing them. Which makes me wonder about nuclear, and eventually SMRs, sited right at the big loads: data centers, industrial parks.

I know the timeline objection, nuclear is slower to build than transmission, and no US SMR is running commercially yet. But that seems like a reason to start now rather than keep defaulting to gas plus wires. And it takes load off the shared grid instead of adding to it.


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Steve G
Jul 20

Thanks Ed, a very thought provoking article about a cornerstone of our industrial, climate change and AI ambitions. A few years ago I did a simplified analysis of the power requirements in Alberta once EVs achieved 25% penetration. In sum, we will need twice as much power as we currently generate. Add in the electrification of homes, businesses and manufacturing, AI data centres, and replacing fossil fuel electricity generation, and it seems like an insoluble problem in any reasonably predictable time frame.

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Christopher R Kelley
Jul 18

Great article. Seems like a need for national consensus or will to get moving on these energy/generation issues. Yet with the country so politically polarized and a lot of misinformation out there about these issues, lack of consensus and "not in my backyard" pushback may keep us struggling to catch up for years.

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On the other hand
Jul 18

Thanks Ed, some good ideas.


I would hope that your final and full analysis would take into account many of the “externalities” (as the economists like to call them) of factors such as energy subsidies and carbon emissions.


Right now, fossil fuels look incredibly cheap because their market price doesn't capture the full economic cost of their carbon emissions. Essentially, the public grid and ratepayers end up absorbing the "unpriced externality" of pollution, creating a skewed baseline when comparing gas or coal to cleaner alternatives.


Your dear leader ( and many of his followers) may not believe in concepts such as climate change, carbon emissions, CO2 etc because, well, he is old and becoming senile and apparently doesn’t read all that much. Too busy on “Truth” Social etc


But in the end you have to compare apples with apples over the coming decades, not just the existential AI race that is happening now.


Imagine if you trashed the environment and pumped out carbon, only to find that China ended up ahead of the US using cheaper / open sourced models ?


One last thought; while China is currently the biggest polluter on the planet, the US is number 2 AND is the biggest cumulative polluter since the Industrial Revolution. In other words; the rest of us have already been subsidising US energy consumption for generations. Maybe it’s time to think of a better future for all somewhere in this. Or maybe the ROW needs to put a carbon tariff on US exports in order to fund local renewables 🤷

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Richie
Jul 18

Really like these pieces Ed great work

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Ron G
Jul 18

I am in China today. My uncle works for the biggest oil company here. He stated that China now has the cheapest electricity on earth. The government doesn’t care which inputs to use (coal, oil, gas, nuclear, wond and solar), it just wants the citizens to power their use with cheap electricity. They don’t care where the transmission lines are built either. I’ve seen beautiful landscapes destroyed by power lines, windmills and solar panels. We can do better in America, but we need to stop the “climate change” religion and make electricity cheaper with the resources we currently have in abundance. Simple, really.

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On the other hand
Jul 18
Replying to

Ron, simple but a bit short sighted maybe? So you are saying you are happy to trash the environment, disregard land rights, ignore the social and economic costs and the costs to future generations so that … you get cheap electricity? Why stop there? Why not invade other countries like Venezuela, Cuba and Greenland and nationalise whole industries across America ?

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johnk
Jul 18

the words from ed are fear inducing.

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Peter S
Jul 17

You continue to perpetuate the fallacy that new renewable energy supplies are intermittent.

Solar+ Battery is the cheapest form of additional baseload electricity. Unsubsidized!

Oil production gets tax preferences and coal is being propped up by crappy energy policy decisions here in the US.

Whatever happened to “all of the above” for energy choices? Another casualty in a post truth America.

Let’s continue with energy efficiency instead of gutting energy star programs. Let’s develop truly safe nuclear energy and a proper way to dispose of waste. Let’s bring back the investment tax credits that even the playing field against subsidized fossil fuels. And let’s stop paying to terminate offshore wind farms close to completion. Stupid is as stupid does…

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213Cobra
Jul 17

LLM AI is driving a violent distortion in electricity markets. With any luck, it will be temporary, as LLM AI is egregiously inefficient computationally, and wastes as much as 80% of its outputs after compute energy has been spent. It's a technological dead-end. Your graphs show power demand catch-up for it is unlikely anyway. Much more efficient, math-based algorithmic AI awaits on the other side of the LLM spasm debacle. We are already seeing where unbridled data center builds in Texas, using locally-fired, gas turbine generators at data centers is resulting in dramatic rises in local, fine particulate pollution, NOx and ozone levels, in addition to the general burst of carbon outputs. The US became the planet's largest carbon emitter in the past year on the basis of data center buildouts alone.


Solar & wind + batteries should be mandated to dominate added electricity production in this (ultimately needless) surge in demand. When the unsustainability of LLM AI becomes obvious, the reversion to the underlying flat-demand (efficiency-driven) era should leave adequate idled margin to support additional manufacturing.

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Richard
Jul 17

Not mentioned in your article is climate hysteria in which anything 'carbon' is bad, hence taxpayer subsidies for windmills and solar panels and the closing of power plants that once provided baseload power.

The second big problem is litigation. For centuries, events like windstorms that blew things over were considered "acts of God." Then people in Oregon sued the power transmission company for fire damage and won million$. Rinse and repeat in CA and HI. Utilities are expected to keep the power on to supply homes, hospitals and businesses, yet if a tree they are not allowed to cut down because of environmental regulations is blown into an energized power line and causes a fire, they get sued. If they de-energize the line and people die in hospitals or at home of heatstroke, they get sued.

What sane person would invest in or own a power transmission line in the current lose-lose situation?

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