The 10th Man

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August 8, 2019

The first thing I read about investing wasn’t actually a book. It was a pamphlet that I got somewhere, 23 years ago.

The pamphlet said you should invest in bonds as well as stocks. It said bonds went up when interest rates went down, and vice versa. It didn’t go into any more detail.

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Well, I did what the pamphlet said, even though I had no idea what the hell I was doing, and wouldn’t figure out for a few more years why it was a good idea.

I suspect a lot of people don’t take that advice on diversification, simply because they don’t know what the hell they are doing.

I taught finance at Coastal Carolina University for five years. Four years in the MBA program. In the MBA program, I used to teach a course called Financial Institutions and Markets, which I loved.

After the semester, one of the students came up to me and said he expected to learn all about how to trade stocks in the class. He thought the whole class would be about the stock market, when in fact, about 85% of the class ended up being about the bond market.

I told him, “Yeah, the stock market is quite a bit smaller, and frankly, it isn’t that important. People focus on it because stocks are easy to understand. But if you want to understand how the world works, you need to understand bonds.”

He was a nontraditional student, and the manager of the largest strip club in town, so I’m not sure what he did with his bond knowledge. But at least there is one more financially literate person out there.

Anyway, it is impossible to understand how the world works in one issue, but we are getting there week by week.

Today, we’re going to take a quick look at a few different types of bonds, because I got hundreds of questions in the survey asking stuff like: “Should I invest in munis? Why should I invest in Treasurys over corporate bonds? What are the pros and cons of different bonds?”

Let’s Take a Bite

Treasury bonds are relatively straightforward (probably why 34% of bond investors in the survey said they were mostly invested in them).

The government borrows money from the public in the form of bills, notes, and bonds. For years, these bonds were considered to be “risk-free,” though you could have a much longer discussion on that now.

The interest rates on Treasury bonds are pretty much the benchmark for every other interest rate in the world, including your mortgage. They also give you a pretty good indication as to which way the economy is going, if you know how to make sense of the numbers.

Buying a Treasury bond is a pure play on the direction of interest rates. If you think interest rates are going down, you would buy Treasurys. Which is a bit ghoulish, because if interest rates go down it is supposed to mean bad things are happening.

I think you have just figured out one reason you need bonds in your portfolio.

Corporate bonds are debt issued by corporations. Also straightforward. But corporates are considered to be riskier than the government, so their interest rates should be higher (because you should be rewarded for taking on more risk), and they generally are. The difference between treasury and corporate interest rates is called a spread, and trading corporate bonds is often called spread trading.

Corporate bonds are rated by rating agencies, and the higher-rated ones are called investment grade, and the lower-rated ones are called high yield. High yield bonds have higher yields, as advertised, but are riskier and more likely to default. Investment grade bonds don’t default very often, but people have become concerned recently about the perceived riskiness of lower-quality investment grade corporate bonds.

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From the survey: 26% of you who are invested in bonds are holding investment grade corporate bonds, versus just 4% holding high yield bonds. If you’re among the 26%, now is a good time to check how much of your holdings are lower-quality investment grade (BBB).

Mortgage-backed securities are pools of mortgages on residential real estate. As you probably know by now, your mortgage has been securitized into a pool which can be bought by investors. Your principal and interest payments are passed through the bond to the investor (MBS are frequently called pass-thrus).

I would need more time to explain exactly how MBS behave, but just know that when interest rates go down, the value of MBS don’t go up very much… yet when interest rates go up, the value of MBS go down a lot. Kind of the worst of both worlds. Why buy these bonds? They yield a bit more, because of the prepayment option, which has to do with the refinanceability of your mortgage.

Sovereign/International bonds are bonds issued by foreign countries or foreign corporations. Some of them are denominated in US dollars, and some of them aren’t. The ones that are denominated in local currency obviously give you exposure to that currency. The currency exposure is generally the overriding concern with these bonds.

Sovereign bonds are neat because to analyze them, you generally need to analyze political risk, and you have to be up on politics in foreign countries. That’s fun, but not necessarily a great idea.

Sovereign bonds are generally treated as corporate bonds—they trade at a spread to US Treasurys.

By the way, just 3% of those of you who are invested in bonds are invested in international bonds, according to the bond survey. That may or may not be a good thing, depending on where you go in the world.

Municipal bonds are bonds issued by state and local governments. Municipal bonds have had a historic rally recently.

The interest on municipal bonds is exempt from federal taxation, and sometimes state and local taxes, which makes them appealing to investors in high tax brackets. If you are in a low tax bracket, munis are generally a waste of time, because the yields are so low.

Some municipalities are in terrible financial shape, which sometimes keeps people from investing in their bonds, but they rarely default, because, well, you can always raise taxes.

There are also tens of thousands of issuers and financial data is typically not available, so the market is famously murky. Also, the Puerto Rico municipal bankruptcy is working its way through the court system and might be setting some not-nice precedents for muni bond investors.

Just Scratching the Surface

The thing that sucks about investing is that you have a full time job where you work 8 hours a day, but you have to somehow also make smart investing decisions.

The reality is that your financial education is your own responsibility, so you have to put in additional work to learn about the financial markets. And the knowledge barrier to entry with bonds is a bit higher than with stocks. There is quite a lot to learn.

I guess you could just cede control to some mook and pay the mook 1.25%. Not to demean the advisory industry, but financial advisors have a powerful incentive to get you to take as much risk as possible—clients are angriest when they underperform the market.

If the mook option doesn’t sound like a good idea to you, see you next week.

Jared Dillian


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Ronald Emrich

Aug. 10, 2019, 4:16 p.m.


It is good to educate people about bonds as they provide diversity. The bad news is they are far more opaque than stocks and I don’t trust the rating agencies anymore. If you are going to buy bonds, read the damn covenants to find value. It is boring as hell, but lucrative if you find the gold needle in the haystack that is undervalued. Just my two cents .


Ryan Conlon

Aug. 8, 2019, 4:08 p.m.

Jared, thanks for starting to educate us on Bonds. 

It seems to me the Bond Market is less transparent than the stock market and the Bid/Ask spreads are larger.  I know in the stock market with 2nd level quotes I can see the Bid Stack, the Ask Stack and the tape as trades clear.  Is this possible with bonds?

Thanks again for starting to cover bonds—my education is very lacking.

Aug. 8, 2019, 10:51 a.m.

Thanks for some meat. I like it more than snarky %#@*&.
I got some bonds, I’m pretty sure they are good things. Maybe I’ll learn why if you keep this up.

Heres another thing for your to-do-list.
“The ones that are denominated in local currency obviously give you exposure to that currency. The currency exposure is generally the overriding concern with these bonds.”
Maybe some day you could unravel currencies in a way I could carry around in my head. Somehow, I feel it could be a good thing to understand.

Aug. 8, 2019, 10:42 a.m.

Buying part of someone’s IOU never struck me as investing. It’s lending, and what I receive for giving my money to the borrower is pretty anemic too. Rather than buy bonds, I’d much rather buy a REIT, especially one that pays monthly dividends. REITs own tangible structures whose tenants remit them rents which, in turn, they share with me. I like knowing I can see and literally touch some of the structures owned by REITs which I, in turn, own.